Democracy Paradox Podcast
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Jeffrey Kopstein joins the Democracy Paradox to discuss when polarization turns violent. Drawing on his Journal of Democracy essay “When Polarization Turns Violent” and his book with Stephen Hanson, The Assault on the State, Kopstein explains why affective polarization, struggles over belonging, and the weakening or politicization of state authority can create the conditions for organized political violence. The conversation ranges from Charlottesville to lynching in the American South, pogroms in Eastern Europe, communal violence in India, and the rise of patrimonial leaders who treat the state as personal property rather than an impersonal rule-of-law institution.

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Jeffrey Kopstein joins the Democracy Paradox to explain when polarization becomes more than a challenge for democracy – and instead becomes a trigger for political violence. Drawing on his Journal of Democracy essay “When Polarization Turns Violent,” Kopstein argues that polarization alone does not inevitably produce violence. The danger emerges when disagreement turns personal, political opponents are cast as illegitimate or threatening, and conflict becomes a struggle over who truly belongs in the political community.

The conversation explores the role of affective polarization – the emotional hostility people feel toward political opponents – and why it can make politics resemble ethnic or sectarian conflict. Kopstein explains how disputes over race, religion, immigration, and citizenship can become especially volatile when groups begin to see one another as outsiders to the “community of solidarity.” Yet even severe hostility does not automatically lead to organized violence.

A central theme of the episode is the importance of the state. Kopstein argues that mass political violence becomes most likely when public authority weakens, fragments, or fails to protect all citizens equally. He draws on examples ranging from pogroms in Eastern Europe to lynching in the American South, communal violence in India, and the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville to show how violence often depends on the absence – or complicity – of police and public authority.

Kopstein also connects this argument to his book with Stephen Hanson, The Assault on the State: How the Global Attack on Modern Government Endangers Our Future. He warns that contemporary patrimonial leaders seek not simply to shrink the state, but to transform it into their personal property, replacing impersonal rule of law with loyalty to the ruler. For democracy, public safety, and equal citizenship, the stakes are not just institutional - they are deeply human.

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